2015
Interview with Crizzo
Francesco Siracusa — Spazio Espositivo
Francesco Siracusa: Your works are marked by figures with sculptural features. What relationship exists between painting and sculpture, for you?
Crizzo: First of all, I wanted to explain the reason behind the title of these latest works of mine, "Dialogico" — "Dialogic" — precisely as a reference to dialogue and to what follows from it: different thoughts that, coming together, form new ones; a mutual exchange. Starting from this principle, I wanted to put painting and sculpture in relation to one another — two great passions of my life which, taken separately, seem very distant, but which communicate when they present themselves as objects on the two-dimensional surface of a white canvas, and which, when put in relation as constructive elements in the composition of the painting, produce a new dimension, realistic and fantastical at the same time.
F.S.: What stages does the creation of your works go through?
Crizzo: My imagination, when it comes to the figures I paint, is three-dimensional: I see them in the round, I walk around them, and only then do I settle on the point of view that convinces me for the painted work. For this reason I often model a small clay maquette, which helps me a great deal with the drawing of the sketch on paper and, ultimately, with the execution of the painting itself. As a result my figures take on that plastic, sculptural quality which is more characteristic of sculpture than of painting, but which for me is essential to express, because both coexist in my natural creative language.
F.S.: How do you know what the next step you have to take is? What guides your work?
Crizzo: I always start from a plan: before I even begin laying down colour on the first canvas, I already know not only what the second one will be, but even the tenth, because from the very start I already have the whole project almost complete in my mind, jotted down in small sketches so as not to forget them; later, as the work proceeds, I may add other paintings, which arise as a development of the previous one or as commissions. So, to answer your question, I choose, among the works I have planned, the one that seems most urgent to me, or the one I need in order to clarify the discourse better.
F.S.: This new body of work draws on a number of different pictorial forms.
Crizzo: As in previous bodies of work, this one too follows the arrangement of fragments that make up a single painting. Taken individually, each one represents a fraction of life, often drawn from my own experience, and together they form a broader design that encompasses them all and projects them into the natural, perpetual cycle of human life. I also set out, perhaps too ambitiously, to try to bring together within this project every possible pictorial form — portrait, self-portrait, landscape, still life, and so on — which I have begun to explore and will continue to develop further. The guiding principle is inclusion and welcome, in the sense that every element contributes to enriching and broadening any situation or discourse one wishes to see grow and progress. The suggestions I constantly draw from the animal, vegetable and mineral worlds remain present throughout.
F.S.: Does the dialogue you speak of also refer to all these different pictorial forms and genres that coexist within a single work?
Crizzo: Yes, I'm referring to the natural relationship created by placing, side by side, a painted portrait within the painting and a sculpture portrayed within the same painting; this proximity creates the dialogue, and this relationship also occurs between elements of a different nature — so a half human figure next to part of a horse creates the centaur, if one wants to start from a mythological basis, or it makes us think of the ancient, naturalistic and utilitarian relationship between man and horse. The same reasoning applies to the different pictorial genres as well.
F.S.: What is the rule that makes two elements enter into dialogue with each other? In essence, in these pairings are you guided by their mutual difference or, on the contrary, by a kind of "resemblance"?
Crizzo: Both, but not only that. What's decisive is the theme I'm interested in developing within the single painting: I often try to represent feelings that belong to my deepest experiences, but I need to tie them to Greek mythology, which for me contains every shade of human sensibility, and so the myth itself suggests to me which element needs to be brought into focus, and with what intensity. Everything depends on the result I set out to achieve and hope to reach every time I stand in front of a canvas.
F.S.: I find this reference to theme as the unifying element of the work interesting, and I think it's what keeps your work from the superficiality that characterises postmodern associations. Would you agree?
Crizzo: I don't know about that, it's not for me to say, and it's not something I worry about. I paint out of my own necessity, and to relate to what surrounds me. By nature, by natural inclination, I tend always to appreciate everything, and I always look for the positive side of whatever I focus on. The rest I leave to the professionalism of others.
F.S.: In this body of work the image of the window recurs often, like a double dimension within the painting.
Crizzo: I believe this aspect of the double dimension arises from a necessary spiritual search of my own. It's no accident that in recent years I have drawn away from social life, in order to give more importance, more attention, to my inner self, to observe my moods and my contradictions more deeply. So in these works two realities come to manifest themselves, one inner and one outer. It's up to whoever looks at my paintings to work out which is which.
F.S.: Whose paintings would you have liked to have painted?
Crizzo: Countless ones — practically all the great paintings in the history of art. For me the time of art is a single, unified time. There is no before and after, no ancient and modern; art is always the invention of an imagined world, and so it stands outside of time, outside the rules that reality imposes on us, and yet it still manages to speak the most intimate truths concerning life and reality. And so within this single time all my passions have a place: Michelangelo has a place there just as Van Gogh does, Caravaggio just as Francis Bacon, Piero della Francesca just as Balthus, Phidias just as Gustave Moreau, Goya just as Lucian Freud, and many others besides — an infinite universe. If we start from the premise that every individual carries within them a constructive dose of envy, well, mine I pour out, accompanied by admiration, toward this part of humanity that has known how to move me so deeply.